Best view of the Diaz swing that ended game 2

posted by u/el_be · 2026-10-25 13:15 UTC

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2. u/Ambigram237 · 2026-10-25 13:27 UTC

As 1000 people have already stated in the dozens of posts before this one: all of this examination is moot because there’s no actual rule.

3. u/welltimedappearance · 2026-10-25 13:42 UTC

drives me insane that 98% of fans have no goddamn clue. We are gonna keep getting every angle possible to examine something that ISNT IN THE RULES

4. u/el_be · 2026-10-25 14:01 UTC

Right, the official rule is if the batter strikes at/offers at the pitch, so it’s entirely subjective. Viewers/fans always talk about the angles and stuff, but there’s no rule or set distance one way or another. It ultimately comes down to if the ump feels like the batter intended to swing/attempted to swing, and often times people will use these angles and unwritten “rules” to argue one way or another about a swing. This angle just shows how far he went around, and in my opinion, confirms he offered/struck at the pitch therefore making it a strike

5. u/appointment45 · 2026-10-25 14:52 UTC

For decades we didn't look at the bat anyway... we looked at the wrists. Break the wrists, you swung, if the wrists are still cocked you stopped it.

6. u/myfrigginagates · 2026-10-25 14:16 UTC

Agree. When I was a kid and a batter argued a check swing we use to yell at them "Stop griping, if you'd hit it, it woulda been a double"

7. u/timbenj77 · 2026-10-25 17:19 UTC

And in every post about every check-swing call ever, one of the top comments is that there's no real standard.

We know. Everyone knows. At least, everyone that has spent any decent amount of time following baseball.

But this wasn't the first baseball game in history, either. This isn't some novel concept. Umpires don't spend their years living in a bubble. They are capable of communicating with other umpires, managers, players...there are some defacto standards. Any given ump is absolutely looking for key things like bat angle, whether or not the wrists "break", and how much the hips turn.

Personally, I think that if the bat crosses 90 degrees, it's a swing. If there's a realistic possibility that they would have made contact if the ball were thrown in the strike zone...how is it not a swing?

8. u/Coleslawholywar · 2026-10-25 15:39 UTC

To be fair, there was a clear rule about the roof ball in the San Diego series and people still analyzed it to death.

9. u/BlueWarstar · 2026-10-25 16:06 UTC

There is, and the rule simply states they must “offer” at the pitch. So it is up to interpretation though with his bat crossing the plane of the plate AND his shoulders being squared up to the pitcher, it was a swing as much as I hated how that game ended.

10. u/TGordion · 2026-10-25 14:28 UTC

What I'm wondering is, did this just recently get discovered? I know Jomboy mentioned it, and that's the reason I asked. Because one of the main reasons I thought that the rule had something to do with the bat's position over the plate or the angle of the wrist is because Jomboy Media so often used that to say if it was a swing in videos

11. u/tinfoilhats666 · 2026-10-25 15:41 UTC

That's sort of the rule of thumb that people use and I think the umpires use, but like everyone else is saying, there isn't a real rule

12. u/HumptyDumptruckFire · 2026-10-25 15:49 UTC

It’s weird that the system they’re trialing in MiLB isn’t even either of these rules because I’m pretty sure that’s how the umpires determine a checked swing, too.

13. u/Constant-Visit-1330 · 2026-10-25 13:49 UTC

Hope this helps.

14. u/JornLuv · 2026-10-25 13:52 UTC

Plane looks broken to me 🤔

15. u/ButkusHatesNitschke · 2026-10-25 14:35 UTC

Plain as all day.

16. u/_platy_ · 2026-10-25 14:12 UTC

Also the 3rd time he’s checked swinged like that in the playoffs and first time he’s been called for it.. should have been called all 3 times imo.

17. u/Witty-Instance8381 · 2026-10-25 13:58 UTC

https://giphy.com/gifs/l1J9wXoC8W4JFmREY

18. u/DrWiggle46 · 2026-10-25 14:08 UTC

19. u/MathProf1414 · 2026-10-25 14:15 UTC

20. u/tailstalestails · 2026-10-25 14:55 UTC

Even easier than this is the bat direction. The bat head is clearly more forward than the handle so he swung and didn’t check. Parallel or a delayed bat head and the swing is checked.

(Just a fan, not a pro, this theory comes from watching too many games.)